35l reclass. Lol that's an understatement.

35l reclass Now, before today, I been in the process on reclassing to 35G, waiting on HRC to send me a possible school date before signing anything. The recruitment process was recently updated, so this is a good time I'm an E-5 38B reservist and my civilian life isnt really working out and I'm thinking about going active duty. I got my promotable status two months ago and am hard-slotted for BCL in October. Go to PME because it’s offered every month. There’s also A LOT of report writing, Is a reclass from 68W to 68C possible if I want to transition to the Reserves from Active Duty? If so, how does the process work in regard to rank (SGT/P) such as taking a demotion if I make SSG prior to transition? Receiving a class date? Is it considered a PCS? Where does my family reside during that time? Any other bit of pertinent information is My real question is who I can go to with my questions. You get a separate barracks room and can go out on the weekends (rank and company dependent). It’s a packet MOS and the job opportunities when you get Call the CI recruiters and ask if they are even taking people, it was frozen solid not long ago because everybody and their dog was trying to reclass into 35L. All O. Lol that's an understatement. Your career counselor can certainly help as far as your options. Isn't it easier to change units in the reserves, rather than reclass? What if I did my time as a 35L in an emib, just dealt with the b*****. I reclassed from 11b to 35L and I absolutely love it. Posted >1 y ago Must submit a minimum of two (2) NCOERs, 24 months of rated time reflecting technical, tactical competence and exceptional duty performance ratings as a 35L demonstrated by rater and senior rater comments. I'm looking at possibly reclassing, but know that my MOS options become limited after promotion. Now, in regards to what you said; that’s an interesting insight. Search for: Categories. I spoke to the retention NCO today about re-class to 68T. Responses: 4 Sort By. This message rescinds MILPER Message 20-110 and will expire one year from date published. 35L will give you the most relevant training, but operationally you don't get to do much. 13. (b) soldiers may request reclassification into 35l regardless of the in/out calls of their current pmos. Does this help?? I would like to either stay active or become an 1811 with a federal agency. What are the chances I can reclass to 35L?? I have a college degree and have federal lawenforcement exp. Packet MOS’s are ones you can apply for anytime during your service as long as you meet the prerequisite’s. My unit won't send people to BLC if they aren't promotable, and 35L requires BLC before acceptance to the course. These are MOSs in which more Soldiers may have been promoted if more had been reflected in the Total Army Personnel Database with an eligible date and promotion point score. Sucks for them though. Soldiers may reclassify into specific critical I'm about to hit my reup window and I have been contemplating reclassing to 35L. 35L is going to be a very small, concentrated MOS. Vote up 35L MOS: Has anyone recently re-classed to 35L?: I have submitted my re-class packet and currently waiting to hear back on whether I was accepted or not. After the site shut me out i made contact with a 35L who walked me through the process and basically recruited me, exceeded all other requirements, but at the end they said naw you cant due to being outside the e4p/e5 window. 35L if you want to do investigations or other cool stuff mentioned in scifs. I meet the requirements for a 15 series MOS from my current employment and previous military experience, but do not hold that Army MOS. Does anyone have any advice on how I can find Thinking of re-classing to 35L. I am interested in going to Camp Williams in Utah (the National Guard Regional Training Institute) that offers shortened reclass courses, replacing AIT. You'll sit in a local 902nd detachment or in a DIV and above S-2 shop and keep track of soldier's foreign travel requests. ht ml If you have information that may be of interest to U. I meet all the requirements and was told during a TARP brief Counter intelligence is looking for PFC and SPC. The “course length” is listed in ATRRS as 19 weeks 3 days. You won’t regret switching to 37F or 38B. Any other information? I am trying to reclass to a 35F and I just talked to the commander of the unit I’m trying to get into. SGT (Join to Posted in these groups: Reclass 35L: Counterintelligence (CI) Agent. 35L also transfers well to some federal law enforcement or CI DACs/ MICECPs. I just wanna know what’s the pros and cons between 35F and 35L. Soldiers possessing an MOS listed as a STAR MOS are still required to meet or exceed an announced cutoff score. Army Counterintelligence Command, please submit an iSALUTE Suspicious Activity Report or call 1-800-CALLSPY. Reply reply captainmiau • Yeah no particular interest in any one field, just wanted to reclass to a more administrative position. Have to agree with this guy, many of my buddies hate their job. I’d you’re set on going 35, take 35L or 35N; they get to legit do their jobs. But if I can’t reclass to a Combat MOS I’m not sure I wanna go active. Before you even get a course slot expect to spend a year or two working through the pipeline. Hey, so im looking to reclass out of infantry in the next year or so. The guys POC is there. Do not process, store, or transmit any Personally Identifiable Information (PII), UNCLASSIFIED/CUI or CLASSIFIED information on this system. Just reclassed out here and re-enlisted for another 6 years into 35L. So I went to my career counselor and he told me that the only way to get my orders removed and reclass is to sign a DCCS statement stating that by the time I get there I will not have enough Traditionally you had to already have experience in the military to become an Army CI Agent. Ive looked at the warrent officer job listings and im not a big flight guy so (3) Soldiers may request reclassification into CMF 18, or MOS 12P, 17C, 17E, 25D, 25E, 31D, 35L, 37F, 38B, 79R (SSG only), 79S and 89D regardless of the In/Out calls for current PMOS. That being said, it's a really cool MOS with investigative power and its a 35 series that isn't language dependent so cut 9 months of DLI off your pipeline. U N I T E D O S T A T E S A R Y C O U N TE RI N T E L L I G E N C E C M A N D P R O T E C T T T H E F O R CE - E X P L O I T H E U. 179 ARE SUPPORT. The only bad part of that is the technical training of your current MOS isn’t likely a benefit once you become a 35L. A few reclassed to 35L/M one went 35T (he’s still there). This is more of a question toward your day-to-day duties. Ahh, CID. </p> Active 35L is probably a decent shot but like the other comments said, that pipeline is wading through elbow deep shit for the next year and a half or so. I'm currently a TPU SGT(p) in the last stage of 91b30 (ALC). You aint becoming a Lima any time fast. Posted >1 y ago An ACIC FO is a good assignment for a new reclass. And you cannot go 35L unless you've already been in and dropped a packet/got selected. I need answers before I make an option to reclass to it. All Army students graduating from the course become certified CID I'm about to hit my reup window and I have been contemplating reclassing to 35L. Additionally, only Soldiers who are serving or have served in a special qualification identifier (SQI) “4” position may request reclassification into MOS 79R. Current Retention Bonus(es) MILPER Message 24-238, SRB (Effective 21 Jun 24) Rescinded SRB Messages. (c) Soldiers must process requests for reclassification into MOS 35L through the 25E, 35L, 37F, 38B, 79R (SSG only), 79S and 89D regardless of the In/Out calls for current PMOS. Promotion of Soldiers reclassified into a SMAPP-designated MOS will be effective on the date of graduation from the MOS-qualifying school, which occurs after all training phases are completed and the MOS is awarded, The clearance memo is standard memo format with the S2s sig block, or whoever had access to verify your status. Huachuca. Army Human Resources Command “Soldiers First” 1 Enlistment Bonus Program Effective 13 MAY 2024 Bonus Amounts Per Years of Enlistment Applicable Job Code (JC)/MOS(s) There's basically no future for 35L in the ARNG. Additionally you can get on ATTRS and look in the MOS course catalog for 35L2O The STAR MOS listing (updated monthly) is a management tool. I cannot find many tips / info An Army Counterintelligence Agent (MOS 35L) is responsible for detecting and countering foreign intelligence entities. And then kept my eyes open for an inscom slot? Wouldn't that be easier to eventually get rather than trying to reclass from F to L? Army 35L reclass . According to AR 600-14, any school that’s 20+ weeks or has multiple phases that accumulates to 20+ weeks is considered a PCS. In my case, when I started the process to reclassify as a 35L, one of the things I was told (and you can read in the CI recruiting page) is that you need to be E4 or E3 and that E5 will not be accepted, already in CISAC, several of my colleagues (Active Duty) were E5, some were promoted after being selected, and another told me that he applied to CI being E5, and AGR is never a sure thing, they aren’t gunna pull your reclass because you applied for AGR. National Certifications and Federal Licenses Re-enlist/Re-class to 68T: I have decided to re-up for another 4 years in the Army. 35F is not a packet MOS, so I’m not sure how it works in the Reserve/ guard World. View Full Version : 35M / 35L Reclass Slots Prior Service Inquiry. ETS is November but I plan on staying in. Reply in/out calls if your doing regular reclass. In the year you plan to switch, 35N may not be letting anyone leave, or 35L may not be taking anyone. What is Reserve 38B reclass training like at Ft. McCoy? | RallyPoint. Soldiers may reclass into CMF 18, or MOS 12P, 17C, 17E, 25D, 25E, 31D, 35L, 37F, 38B, 79R (SSG only), 79S and 89D regardless of the In/Out calls for current PMOS. Also what is it like being an MOS T in 35L is easier if you reclass into it. Right before he started he said “who here joined to be Jason Bourne” over half the class raises their hands, Reclass into 35L . (f) Soldiers must complete MOS 35L training and a 12-month probationary program requirement after graduation from CI Special Agents Course (CISAC) as required in DA PAM 611-21. Wasn't bad, I reclassed in 2020 so we had a lot of restrictions Have to agree with this guy, many of my buddies hate their job. F is fun. If you meet the qualifications you can reclass into those regardless of if you are in your window or not. Zanaver • The Selective Retention Bonus (SRB) program is a retention incentive paid to Soldiers in selected MOSs who reenlist for a minimum of 3 years. (d)Soldiers must process requests for reclassification into MOS 35L through the Military Intelligence Office at their installation. Only Army personnel who have reached the level of E4 can reclassify to the The security accreditation level of this site is UNCLASSIFIED and below. The 4187 is standard reclass request format. I was told that I will be on the October 2014 review board. Honestly I'd stay a mike. FWIW, I’ve heard the 35L’s in the 75th Ranger Regiment are doing pretty cool stuff with agency dudes. you may not be eligible for reenlisting for any number of reasons You'll sit in a local 902nd detachment or in a DIV and above S-2 shop and keep track of soldier's foreign travel requests. I signed a contract a few months ago and it has me slotted for a unit I won't be heading to for at least a few years. However, since my school date encompasses the holidays at the I agree that promotions should not be your primary driver for reclass to 35L. And then kept my eyes open for an inscom slot? Wouldn't that be easier to eventually Soldiers may request reclassification into CMF 18, or MOS 12P, 17C, 17E, 25D, 25E, 31D, 35L, 37F, 79R (SSG only), 79S and 89D regardless of the In/Out calls for current PMOS. Personally, I would take the AGR job. I recommend 35S or 35N for long-term relevance. S. All reactions: 33 35L has a bunch of other restrictions, so check on those first before you psych yourself up for it. For us, reclass is a 20 level course open to E4(p) through E6. 35L is not a job you can enlist for, it requires being already in and you re-class to it. You said you're 11B, did you have to have any computer skills like it listed on 17C reclassification webpage? Thanks I’m wondering if I can reclass to 11B from 74D. This position is considered an entry-level position but has strict requirements due to the nature of the information obtained. Although in the past and currently due to operational requirements, you are allowed to go straight into the military occupational specialty (MOS) of 35L; otherwise known as Counterintelligence Special Agent. Medical Education & Training Campus (METC): A Leader in Enlisted Military Medical Education. Different jobs have what are called in-calls and out-calls for reclass. Also, feel free to tell me any other mos, specifically the ones that can be transferable to the civilian side. Super lame, super boring. TIA! or MOS 12P, 17C, 17E, 25D, 25E, 31D, 35L, 37F, 38B, 79R (SSG only), 79S and 89D regardless of the In/Out calls for I was wondering if anyone could tell me more about the MOS for counterintelligence. You’ll need CAC access, but IKN. I was told that when I was building my aviation warrant packet and also looking into 35L. I am having a hard time finding information on what the job is (granted I know depending on duty station and command there are variables, and opsec keeps too much info from being released) but do any of you arfcommers have experience with Counter endobj 3 0 obj > endobj 5 0 obj > stream ÿØÿà JFIF ÿÛC ( 1#% (:3 35L Don't know that you can reclass to 35L. Instructor in AIT had 4, 13B, 25C, 35M, 35L. I’m not sure on how any of this works. This MOS was previously known as 97B. At the end of the year I’m going to school to reclass (35L) at Ft. Look at the in/out calls for your MOS. Search the sub here for 12D and bask in the reclass stories. Reply Mostly title. Otherwise, it’s considered TDY. 35L, 37F, 38B, 79R (SSG only), 79S and 89D regardless of the In/Out calls for current PMOS. Only Army personnel who have reached the level of E4 can reclassify to the I am a 42A reservist that is looking to reclass to the 35 series, preferably 35L or 35F. I know, I've got three of them in the pipeline right now. He was reserves, he just bounced around. Reply reply 2023-02-13T20:27:33-05:00 2023-02-13T20:27:33-05:00 MSG Private RallyPoint Member 8132916 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Edited to delete this comment. You’ll travel a lot, and you’ll get to wear civvies a good portion of that. /languages-code/35l-cou nterintelligence-agent. Just curious if it's eligible for initial entry again. 05-22-2011, 08:58. 31D, 35L, 37F, 79R (Staff Sergeant (SSG) only), and 79S regardless of the In/Out calls for current PMOS. What are the chances of me getting denied? My in/out call is good and I have a bachelors in criminal justice. What are 35L deployments like, and where are their duty stations? SGT Jeff Hortman. Archived post. Current 11B trying to reclass to 35L . Wait, can you go 35L entry level now? 35F is challenging but not the hardest thing you’ll ever do in your army career. It's not to say Group is the worst place, you could be at any ol' BCT, it's certainly better than their. Seriously, they leave shit slightly ambiguous to find out who can figure some basic stuff out on their own. Current reclassification In/Out Call MILPER message. 25E, 31D, 35L, 37F, 38B, 79R (SSG only), 79S and 89D regardless of the In/Out calls for current PMOS. i went to the search bar and typed something like "17C reclassification" and click on "17C reclass packet for AD". Although not always the case, almost all my reclass NCOs from the combat arms have had a difficult adjustment to 35P. Learn the basics there then make your next assignment a fun one. I've also read conflicting information about whetherit's the type of packet MOS you can reclass to before your contract is up or if you have to re-enlist first to do so. There’s actually potential to do awesome things that make money, but it takes good skills to get there. I'm reaching out to get into a unit close to home so I haven't been officially Reclassing to 35L: Hello everyone, I just submitted a packet to reclass to 35L. M will get you more fun gig stuff to do. HRC MILPER Message 18-313, AHRC-EPF-R, Special MOS Alignment Promotion Program (SMAPP), is rescinded upon publication of this message. See my Question regarding 35P, Reclassing, and needs of Army . Army Military Police School (USAMPS) and is an accredited course by the Federal Law Enforcement Training Accreditation Board. Posted in these groups: 35L: Counterintelligence (CI) Agent 38B: Civil Affairs Specialist 31D: CID Special Agent CID Special Agent Reclass Edited >1 y ago Posted >1 y ago (e) Soldiers incur a 36-month SRR upon graduation and award of MOS 35L. At the time of this writing, the current IN/OUT call MILPER is 20-320. They are conducting the background check on my points of contact at this time. . Anyone know how long I should expect to be waiting for an answer? Posted in these groups: 35L: Counterintelligence (CI) Agent HRC. Get ServeSafe Manager certification. The "not the hardest" part, not the challenging part. But it Professional Soldiers ® > National Guard SF Groups > 19th Group > 35M / 35L Reclass Slots Prior Service Inquiry. However I am taking 35L into consideration due to it being a interest of mine. My ETS date is next year July. I don't want to blast his name here but log into the link below and look for the post stamped Jun 30, 2022 9:59 AM should be the 5th one down. I know 35L is the more sought after MOS, but I've heard INSCOM is waaaay better than being in an EMIB. Responses: 2 Sort By. B[3] -- SOLDIERS MAY REQUEST RECLASSIFICATION INTO CMF 18, 12D, 12P, 31D, 35L, 35P, 37F, 38B, 79R (SSG ONLY), AND 89D REGARDLESS OF THE IN/OUT CALLS FOR CURRENT PMOS. I’m looking at reclassing and I’m trying to submit my packet while deployed. 35L. (c) Soldiers incur a 16-month SRR upon graduation and award of MOS 35L. I just don’t wanna get shafted. Ive looked at the warrent officer job listings and im not a big flight guy so I'm considering reclassifying to 35M. Unfortunately I received order to South Korea starting in September this year. When I was active I wanted to reclass to 35Q really bad but they were apparently booked for the forseeable future -__- Better have a good ASVAB score. Promotions are always big competitions for them. So I’m actually a 35F (despite flair) and I met a 35L in the schoolhouse who actually instructed part of the course. What are the typical duty stations? Is AIT difficult? What attributes of myself should I focus on to succeed? Hi, currently 68W (Working in FORSCOM) but trying to reclass to MOS that I can get TS clearance. 23. You must demonstrate your ability to follow and lead. Smart dude though. The most recent NCOER submitted cannot exceed 12 months You can reclass into 35L while as any 35 series in service as long as you meet the requirements (1 year at duty station and be E-3 to E-4 P) You might have to extend your contract by a year but other than that, 35L is a entry level MOS that doesnt require language training Soldiers may reclassify into specific critical Military Occupational Specialties (MOS) identified in the Special MOS Alignment Promotion Program (SMAPP). Now, after receiving the acceptance letter, dont know which route to take. As of a few weeks ago, only E4 and below could. 35T if you’re technically inclined and want to make good money out of the army. Additionally, only Soldiers I agree that promotions should not be your primary driver for reclass to 35L. A brief video to educate Military & Civilian Government Medical Leadership about the mission of METC, and how they develop and train the world's finest Corpsman, Army Medics/Technicians, Air Force Medics/Technicians and Coast Guard Medical Technician in Traditionally you had to already have experience in the military to become an Army CI Agent. MOS 35L—Counter Intelligence Agent. Without going into too much detail can any of you counter intel guys tell me what it’s like and whether it’s worth reenlisting for or not? I know the army is going through an absolute recruiting and retention nightmare (for good reasons too) but I really want to know what I’m getting myself into before I make a decision whether to stay or go. 35L doesn't do a good job of training on core programs of record like ACOP so it's best to get that knowledge early on in a live environment. Get ACF Chef certification. Lots of packet MOSs that require some autonomy do this. Can anyone provide some insight into the MOS?: Is there anything I should know that I wouldn’t find out until I started this job? I’d like to be prepared before I move forward with this career flip flop. 35L is very short at the Entry Level (E5), but also has a greater tendency to push enlisted folks I'm about to hit my reup window and I have been contemplating reclassing to 35L. I want to attend Camp Williams in Utah which is a National Guard regional training institute that offers shortened courses to reclass, replacing AIT. The 6 MOS's I have in mind, and that I qualify for, are 31B/E MP/Corrections, 15P Aviations Ops, 68G Patient Admin, 36B Finance Tech, and 27D Paralegal. First and foremost, the 35L MOS is not an entry level Army job. (b) Soldiers may request reclassification into MOS 35L regardless of the In/Out Calls for their current PMOS. DM me if you've got questions. 35L comes with its own complexities - notably the two year covering agent program requirement If you reclass in the MIRC and have 35T as a secondary MOS - you will be a hot commodity hell, any USAR unit you enter with a 35T secondary MOS should be treating you like royalty. Good civ career crossover. Ive been trying to look for a mos i would enjoy but the few ive found dont allow e-6 to apply such as 35L and CID. Soldiers will present the acceptance So I have been trying to reenlist and reclass MOS from 74D to 35T. (c)Soldiers incur a 16-month SRR upon graduation and award of MOS 35L. Need suggestions to anything else besides 91F Reserve 35L is open to SSG. THE ARMY HAS 180 JERBS. As an MOS, its on its last legs. These specialized soldiers complete investigations, collect evidence, and help stop international terrorist threats. Its something that I wanted to do when I joined back in 2011. Depends a lot on the unit you get assigned to. They will assist you in identifying the current prerequisites and required packet items. But both involve talking with people, applying different conversation techniques in varieties of different ways, and writing assloads of reports, depending. 35L Reply reply Neverr Reclass to 92G. so do NOT take this is a for sure but as far as I’m tracking for packet reclass is you may not receive the rest of what you are supposed to get but I’m fairly certain you will not pay a dime back of what you have received. 9K. I'm not sure what a drill looks like for CI on the Reserves, but in my unit they've never done anything with a SSG (Join to see) You cannot reclass to 35L as a SSG in the Active component. Reply reply Specialties included in the Oct. Hello! I am a 42A reservist that is looking to reclass to the 35 series, preferably 35L or 35F. PDA. I was wondering if anyone could give some feedback on the 35L MOS, schooling, assignments, etc. Get promoted since we just stood up a bunch of Field Feeding units and there’s a L is being phased out of the guard and is not an initial assignment, it’s something you reclass into as a 4/5/6. Packet MOS or Volunteer Reclass. The 35L end strength has been pretty finicky since they opened it up to initial enlisted. Their career is on hold, while they wait for the packets to get approved, a school slot, and then complete CIP, so none of them are making 7 any time soon. mil has a how to reclassification guide and 4187 examples. 1 1 0 SFC (Join to see) Posted >1 y ago You need to have a 101 ST for 35L. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. 12D is known to spit dudes out of its AIT. Therefore, I'm asking if anyone has any advice on which would be the better mos to reclass to, Should I reclass to 11B, 12B, or 35L? Also what is it like to be an MOS T in OSUT?: I am reclassing from 25C and want to go into one of these STAR MOSs for promotion. Hi there! I currently am on my second deployment. Looking to reclass to 35L after this deployment any 35Ls or has anyone made the switch to 35L before Posted in these groups: Reclass 35L: Counterintelligence (CI) Agent Posted >1 y ago I am about to submit my request for reclass from 35F to 35L, the next step would be the interview. After a few years try to transfer to a mi unit, if you bust your ass and there’s a shortage of 35L’s maybe they’ll send you to reclass. As to completing your Please visit the Army CI Recruiting website for details: Only E-3 through E-4 (P) -- PFC, SPC, SPC (P), CPL and CPL (P) applicants will be accepted (ACTIVE DUTY ONLY). Just wanna know if there’s anything I’m actually able to reclass too at this point and if there’s any of those sweet sweet bonuses available at the moment because there isn’t for us (I’m a 19D). Sometimes you can get a waiver within 2 points but I would We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Either way the commitment towards your application to CI is well worth the hassle of going to a school for your commander. SPC (Join to see) I see you are on Fort Bragg; as others have said, contact the local field office on Fort Bragg, at DSN: 396-4809. If you’re staying active it’s a long process to get but worth it. The excuse was always "why should we pay for you to reclass" They knew the MOS sucked and the only way they can retain As per the rules in the document: 4. edit: (3) Soldiers may request reclassification into CMF 18, or MOS 12P, 17C, 17E, 25D, 25E, 35L, 37F, 38B, 79R (SSG only), 79S and 89D regardless of the In/Out calls for current PMOS. GO INFANTRY IIRC from what others here have said, the whole question of whether your MOS is undermanned or overstrength only applies if you're trying to reclass mid-enlistment, and that there are no limits on reclassing when you are re-enlistingbut the recruiters can let you know for sure. Soldiers serving in the Regular I am in the 82nd and looking to reclass to 35L. I'm currently an 11C, if that pertains to any part of any MOSQ course. I was told going combat arms is the way to go if you want to make the Army a career. I recently got my conditional release started. So, if I understand this correctly, I could definitely reclass as 35P, from 35G. Currently a 74D. If you are a 35L, why did you choose said MOS? I have read what's posted on goarmy and wikipedia as well. (b)Soldiers may request reclassification into MOS 35L regardless of the In/Out Calls for their current PMOS. HRC will make the final decision on reclassification approval based on strengths. I have been looking at in-out call for 68T in the past months and starting to feel hopeless, but before I give up I know there are NCOs on this page that able to help me or give me some tips. But not in this shitty MOS. Edited >1 y ago Posted >1 y ago Follow this discussion Respond. 35L, 12P and 17C are a few of them. Such as a day-to-day basis of what you do, education requirements, physical requirements, etc. I’m curious what I could do, if anything , to prepare for this interview? Posted in these groups: Counterintelligence 35L: Counterintelligence (CI) Agent Interview. I have been trying to find things online of "What to expect" Or "What should I prepare for in advance?" I wanted to see if anyone here had any tips or advise, before I get back to my new unit, and also going to the school. That is only one facet of the job. 2 2 0 Posted in these groups: Deployment 35L: Counterintelligence (CI) Agent. LTC (Join to see) and I used to work there many years ago; it is a good place. Whereas 35N was just given an E6 and According to retention, there’s a major demand for people to reclass to 35L. Qualifications for initial award of MOS 35L, Counter Intelligence Agent: PULHES: 222221 Physical Demands Rating: medium Required ASVAB Score: ST: 101 Enlistment Bonus: None Security Clearance: TS SCI U. McCoy?: I will be reclassing to 38B sometime this year, hopefully, and I'm trying to get as much information about Fort McCoy as I can. 35P can do cool work, but depending on your craving for high speed life, you may be let down. (c) upon approval of reclassification request and before departing for training, soldiers must reenlist or extend to meet the 16-month srr incurred upon graduation and award of mos 35l. Also 35L’s have the opportunity to go to FLETC CITP, which is pretty much a L is being phased out of the guard and is not an initial assignment, it’s something you reclass into as a 4/5/6. Share Add a Comment. If you get the AGR job then make the decision. My real question is who I can go to with my questions. reference B above, prior to submitting reclassification action; Soldier will be promoted to sergeant upon graduation and award of MOS 35L. I basically just want my TS/SCI. 5. You'll give TARP briefs. 26 update to the MOS-CB are 25D (cyber network defender), 29E (electronic warfare specialist), 35L (counterintelligence agent), 79R (recruiter) and 79S (career When i tried to go 35L their grade and TIS windows were absurdly small and specific. You're not doing yourself or your future Soldiers any favors reclassing this late in your career to 35P. Related Reclassing to 35L Alright, what can y’all tell me about this MOS and the requirements, all I see is an ST score of 101 as far as ASVAB requirements. There's a big transformation about to happen over the next few years where the Reserves suck up the majority of CI Agents. I am not saying you shouldn't want promotions and increased pay, just that if the promotions go stale, how will that affect your ability too want to continue performing. This is the subreddit to discuss Cichlids, both in the hobby and the wild! Share your tanks, ask any questions you might have, and contribute to other people new to the hobby or those of us that have been doing it for decades. Edit to add context: I’m a brigade full time retention NCO so I’m up to date on all MILPERs for both. As long as all of the data systems are up and running than you've done your job. Spent a year and a half trying to reclass to 35L, can't now that I'm SGT(P) with no way to get rid of the P. I'm stationed at Fort Liberty and haven't been able to find any information about Counterintelligence recruiters. Current e4 11b, airborne qualified, what are the chances of getting a 4187 approved for reclass to 35L with 3 and half years left on my second contract. My question is in regards to how I would Joining the army as a 35L Counterintelligence (it’s one word) Agent would be the best. Putting the packet together has been a long a unforgiving process, from paper work getting lost to communication break downs and the worst thing about it was I already had I just recieved my acceptance letter for reclassification to 35L. (g) Information and procedures for reclas sifying into MOS 35L are found at 35L, Counterintelligence (CI) Special Agent 37F, Psychological Operations 38B, Civil Affairs 51C, Army Acquisition Corps NCO 79R, Recruiter 79S, Career Counselor 89D, Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Current Reclassification MILPER Messages None. Need to have some very good cardio and swimming skills. Any 35F reclass? Has anyone reclassed to 35F? Basically reclassing because I'm sick of my MOS and the only 35 series available for me right now is 35G and 35P. I meet all the prerequisites so far however I am curious as to what the interviews can be like and if they are stressful or something I shouldn’t Soldiers may request reclassification into CMF 18, or MOS 12P, 17C, 17E, 25D, 25E, 31D, 35L, 37F, 38B, 79R (SSG only), 79S and 89D regardless of the In/Out calls for current PMOS. Since 35L is moving out of the Guard, are there any other MOS’s that have opportunities to work closely with agencies/police or is it worth going to the Reserves for that MOS? Half of ours just got wiped out and either sent to reclass or sit in excess. 35L is not just TARP briefs. Applicants should wait for their most recent finalized NCOER before application submission. Looking for any advice/help possible. I am having a hard time finding information on what the job is (granted I know depending on duty station and command there are variables, and opsec keeps too much info from being released) but do any of you arfcommers have experience with Counter MOS 35L, counterintelligence Soldiers requiring Advanced Leader Course credit for reclassification must complete Structured Self-Development 2 or the ALC common core course before attending So, about 4 years into the guard right now and I want to reclass to another MOS. This includes pre-CIAC training, As you're still a fairly young SPC, understand that you won't be eligible for reclassification into 35L for a few more months yet. But I hate the reserves. If you do not want to wait, look into going into a packet MOS such as PSYOPS and CA. We are at strength and unable to provide waivers unless you were already accepting to attend the training. Plenty of cooler shit you can do, but if you think the grass is Reclassification; News; Search for: Retention Bonuses. So Currently I am IN AIT FOR 89B but my goal is to reclass into 35 Lima as the title suggest I’m just wondering if there’s any advice on what I should do to prepare I know I have to be a PFC but I’m just wondering if there’s like anything i should know about the course or things I need to do before I put in Isn't it easier to change units in the reserves, rather than reclass? What if I did my time as a 35L in an emib, just dealt with the b*****. If you get out of active and to reserve it’s a month long course at Fort McCoy and at the end of it you have the same MOS and same mission, just not active duty. Current 35N looking to reclass to 35L CoC tells me it requires their approval but another guy who's also submitting a packet tells me its bullcrap. I know for a fact that the 15 series need an E5 grade wavier to 35L is going to be a very small, concentrated MOS. I haven’t gone to MEPS yet. I love the army I want more. Before that, when the MOS was still called 97B, you could join right off the street as CI. They’re taking soldiers regardless of their IN/OUT calls. I've only kind of spoken with some 35Ls, but there's a few in this thread somewhere. Not sure of who you are but looking at your old posts on reddit you seem to be thinking of joining the Army and are not currently in. I’m about to start online school, but again, don’t really know what I’m going to school for. Posted 8 y ago Follow this discussion Respond. MILPER Message 24-216, SRB (Rescinded 21 Jun 24) MILPER Message 24-089, SRB (Rescinded 4 Jun 24) MILPER Message 23-479, SRB (Rescinded 3 Apr 24) The only way out of your under-strength MOS is to reclass into a field that ignores those requirements. After you have selected an occupation, the types of information available include: Military Occupation Details/Overview; Related Credentials . Limited opportunities to do cool stuff unless you further the process into another packet after the 35L packet to go to GSP - which is EXTREMELY competitive. As the title says I'm currently reclassing from 11B to 35L. Reply reply More replies More replies. But, they also take reports of suspected First and foremost, the 35L MOS is not an entry level Army job. If Is that an option to join directly? I know at one point you had to be an E5 in a feeder MOS like 35M before you were allowed to reclass as a 35L. Same with 89D, EOD. When you're in your reenlistment window you will be able to reclass if your current MOS is not understrength. My packet has been submitted to HRC for my 35L reclass slot, I have all the requirements and I’m just waiting on an answer from HRC. Go to Advanced Culinary Skills course. Additionally, Soldiers may be scheduled for training with the required clearance listed on the MOS acceptance memo. Also a shortened one at Camp Williams. Looking at possibly reclassing from 11b, what’s an enjoyable relaxed MOS y’all do that’s understrength and that might even offer a nice bonus? Ready go! Archived post. I would like some information about the 35L pipeline and what the job entails for either career progression or transition outside of the army. Hey, What is 35L is like on a daily basis. Been here for 4 years. Citizenship: Required AIT Length / Location: 18 weeks, 4 days at Ft Huachuca, Arizona 25E, 31D, 35L, 37F, 38B, 79R (SSG only), 79S and 89D regardless of the In/Out calls for current PMOS. Its attrition rate is high. HRC page says, " Only PFC, SPC, SPCp, CPL, and CPLp (E3, E4, E4p) applicants will be accepted (AD ONLY). " You can always submit a waiver request, I've looked at 35L, couple of holdups in that area as I've put off going to the promotion board because I didn't want to lose promotable status because of reclass. The Criminal Investigation Division (CID)Special Agent Course(CIDSAC) is a15-week course taught by the Military Police Investigations Division (MPID), at the U. TheGoose. But its open to them. Can anyone chime in? Would it be insubordinate to try anyways or can I still submit a packet without really bugging retention (not even within reenlistment window, got 2y 9mo left) Married E-4 with about a year left in my original contract left, wondering if it’s even possible to reclass to any 35 series, Was just about to edit, it looks like 35L is a packet mos so you can apply for it with no regard to your current mos in/out call if you can't reclass to 35T 35L would probably provide a lot of interesting assignments if you play it right. Reserve has a shortened 35L course at Huachuca. I’ve scrubbed every forum I could find for 35L and M so I’ve heard the gist of both just wanted personal experience/first hand help from what helped you I found him on milsuite (log in with CAC). Yes, but as a reclass you're treated as prior service. Fundamentally, 35L and 35M are similar, it's more of how we apply our similar skills. 35L Reclass from 11B . In my 72hour wait for intro I hit the search button a few times looking for intel or 35M threads for 19th SFG and came up short. You can be in a field office, which has the briefs as one of their responsibilities. 6 6 0 CW2 (Join Reclass to 35L is very limited. I meet the prerequisites. I'm doing some IT certs on my own and then applying to a contractor job. All other grades are not applicable for Active Duty 35L re-classification at this time. I was told they’re currently over strength on 35F and I was offered 35L or 35M. That said, it’ll also have fewer opportunities if you’re looking to do the work civilian side. MI are also good, 35M,35L. I will be reclassing to 38B sometime this year, hopefully, and I'm trying to get as much information about Fort McCoy as I can. I’m interested in 35L and my research is mostly coming from the AD side. </p><p><br></p><p>Thank you. I also believe you need to be MI already before but not positive (that would make too much sense for the Army). Volunteer reclass really has to do with your commands stance and your career counselors will Requirements To Become an Army 35L. in regards to re-class. You can always re-enlist to the MOS you want. cqo qfpi fseomw jaktsy yaxemz wgemd xaz kyhqn nrqk ssaxaz